I have a few television posts coming down the pike, but I've seen the following article a lot in my social media feeds and it's something I feel rather strongly about. Please excuse the diversion.
Recently, I've seen
this article popping up on Facebook and Twitter, asking 40 questions of Christians who support gay marriage. As a Christian who wholeheartedly supports gay marriage, I say "Challenge accepted."
1. How long have you believed that gay marriage is something to be
celebrated?
About seven or eight years.
Basically
since I first met actual gay couples.
2. What Bible verses led you to change your mind?
It wasn’t a Bible verse that changed my mind, but if you want one, let’s go
with Romans 13:10: “Love does no harm to its neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the
law.”
3. How would you make a positive case from Scripture that sexual activity
between two persons of the same sex is a blessing to be celebrated?
1 John implores us to “love one another, for love comes from God.
Everyone who loves has been born of God and
knows God…No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us
and his love is made complete in us…God is love.
Whoever lives in love lives in God and God in
them.”
God is love.
It is impossible for me
to believe that a God who would instill love in us would deprive us of the
ability to express that love to another person.
4. What verses would you use to show that a marriage between two persons of
the same sex can adequately depict Christ and the church?
See above.
Marriage, as the ultimate
demonstration of love for another person, is an invitation for God to live in
them and through them.
5. Do you think Jesus would have been okay with homosexual behavior between
consenting adults in a committed relationship?
It’s tough to say because this would have been a relatively uncommon
practice in Ancient Rome.
I can’t
definitively say one way or the other.
6. If so, why did he reassert the Genesis definition of marriage as being
one man and one woman?
Jesus was responding to the Pharisees who were attempting to trap him and
get him to say something
in contradiction to Jewish law (“
The
Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, ‘Is it lawful for a
man to divorce his wife for just any reason?’”).
In response, he did what he always did with
the Pharisees: give them a legally correct answer that was bound to frustrate
them anyway, since Moses had previously allowed divorce (see also: “render unto
Caesar” and “let he who among you is without sin cast the first stone”).
7. When Jesus spoke against porneia what sins do you think he was
forbidding?
I can say with absolute, 100% certainty that Jesus never in his life spoke
against “
porneia” because Jesus
didn’t
speak Greek.
But leaving that small
piece aside for the moment, let’s consider the word “
porneia.”
In its most modern connotation,
porneia is
generally translated as “sexual immorality.”
This has had the unfortunate consequence of allowing everybody to write
their definition of “sexual immorality” onto the term.
For most, sexual immorality includes
adultery.
For some, it includes
homosexuality and premarital sex.
For
others, it includes masturbation.
For
other still, it includes dancing, wearing dresses that end above the ankles,
wearing sleeveless tops, not covering your hair and women touching men to whom
they are not married.
But
porneia has a much more specific definition than simply “sexual
immorality” and must be considered alongside its complement “
moicheia.”
Most often, while
porneia is translated as
“sexual immorality,”
moicheia is translated as “adultery,” but really they are
two sides of the same coin.*
In Ancient Greece,
moicheia referred to the violation (usually through adultery though this would
also apply to rape) of an honorable woman: a wife, daughter, or widow.
Strictly speaking,
moicheia was not a
violation of the woman, but of the man who was responsible for protecting the
woman’s honor.
In Greek society, at
least for men,
moicheia was forbidden, unlike its counterpart
porneia, or
extramarital sex with a dishonorable woman or man (usually a prostitute or a
slave).
Porneia was not only legally and
socially permissible, but often encouraged.
And even then, the term “
porneia” was typically reserved for the one
selling themselves or being used, not for the “john.”
In fact, the root form of the word (pernao) means “to sell off.”
It is in this context, then, that we must understand the Jewish use of
“
porneia,” The Jews, in their efforts to set themselves apart from the Greeks,
identified
porneia as a sin, not just for the woman, but for men as
well.
But despite this expansion, it
still referred almost exclusively to prostitution (in the Old Testament) and
sex outside of marriage.
So, in answer to the original question, Jesus never spoke against “
porneia,”
but what he did speak out against that the author of Matthew translated as
“
porneia” could very well have been extramarital sex of any kind or, more specifically,
having sex with prostitutes and slaves.
* Matthew 19:9, the verse in which
Jesus is quoted as saying “porneia” is usually translated as “I
tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality
[porneia], and marries another woman commits adultery [moicheia].” A very reasonable interpretation of this verse is that Jesus is telling the Pharisees that a man who divorces his wife is guilty of a far greater sin (moicheia) than the dishonorable woman who sells herself on the street (porneia).
8. If some homosexual behavior is acceptable, how do you understand the
sinful “exchange” Paul highlights in Romans 1?
It’s important to remember that, in both Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome,
sexuality did not abide by the traditional hetero/homosexual dichotomy that we
view it in today.
Rather, sex was about
power, with a dominating partner and a submissive partner – or, to put it
crudely, a giver and a receiver.
It was
not considered wrong, legally, socially, or morally for a man to have sex with
another man (or boy), as long as he was in the dominant role.
This was the culture in which Ancient Romans lived and it was the culture
which Paul was addressing.
It is
entirely possible, then, to understand Paul’s description of the symptoms of
God’s wrath (and these are the symptoms, not the cause) as the subversion in
gender roles brought about when men take the submissive role in sex or women
take the dominant role (gender roles are a common theme in Paul’s
letters).
In other words, Paul is
telling the Romans, “When God’s wrath comes, the unbelieving men will be turned
submissive and made receivers of sex.”
This is not meant as a strict condemnation of homosexuality in general,
but as an explicit threat to the Romans of the humiliations (in their minds)
they would endure if they don’t repent.
9. Do you believe that passages like 1 Corinthians
6:9 and Revelation
21:8 teach that sexual immorality can keep you out of heaven?
If everything the Bible says will send us to Hell will actually send us to
Hell, then we’re all doomed.
In all seriousness, so long as we accept that those actions are wrong and ask
forgiveness then, no, they will not keep us out of heaven.
10. What sexual sins do you think they were referring to?
See above, re:
porneia.
11. As you think about the long history of the church and the near universal
disapproval of same-sex sexual activity, what do you think you understand about
the Bible that Augustine, Aquinas, Calvin, and Luther failed to grasp?
I don’t think that I know more.
But
those men didn’t agree on everything either.
It is possible to not have a 100% accurate view of the Bible and Jesus’s
teaching and still be right about enough to be saved.
Hell, Thomas Aquinas practically invented
purgatory (or at least its doctrine), which Calvin and Luther both rejected and
about which Augustine was, at best, agnostic.
12. What arguments would you use to explain to Christians in Africa, Asia,
and South America that their understanding of homosexuality is biblically
incorrect and your new understanding of homosexuality is not culturally
conditioned?
I would say that the current anti-gay Christianity is
based on some misinterpretations of the original text that itself is based in
cultural conditions many centuries ago.
I would also encourage them to embrace love in its many forms.
13. Do you think Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were motivated by personal
animus and bigotry when they, for almost all of their lives, defined marriage
as a covenant relationship between one man and one woman?
No.
14. Do you think children do best with a mother and a father?
I think that children do best in stable, two-parent homes.
15. If not, what research would you point to in support of that conclusion?
The research
seems to indicate that children in homes with two same-sex parents fare just as
well as children in homes with two opposite-sex parents.
16. If yes, does the church or the state have any role to play in promoting
or privileging the arrangement that puts children with a mom and a dad?
See above.
17. Does the end and purpose of marriage point to something more than an
adult’s emotional and sexual fulfillment?
Yes.
18. How would you define marriage?
Marriage is how two people demonstrate to themselves, their friends, their
family, and God that they love each other and are committed to spreading that
love to everybody they know.
We’re now leaving moral territory and entering political territory.
While my previous responses were based on my
religious and moral beliefs, the following are based on my political beliefs.
19. Do you think close family members should be allowed to get married?
20. Should marriage be limited to only two people?
21. On what basis, if any, would you prevent consenting adults of any
relation and of any number from getting married?
These are all basically the same question, so I’ll tackle them
together.
In a perfect world, where
everybody is perfectly good and nobody is in any way bad, I would have no
problem with family members marrying or polygamy as the government should not
be in the business of discriminating without a compelling interest.
Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect
world, and the power dynamics in such relationships very often result in abuse,
typically of women.
The state has a
compelling interest in ensuring that such abuse does not occur, so it
understandably prohibits such relationships.
22. Should there be an age requirement in this country for obtaining a
marriage license?
Nobody should be allowed to marry prior to the age of consent.
23. Does equality entail that anyone wanting to be married should be able to
have any meaningful relationship defined as marriage?
The state should not be in the business of discrimination.
If it is going to issue marriage licenses, it
should do so equitably, barring a compelling interest not to.
24. If not, why not?
See above, re: 19, 20, and 21
25. Should your brothers and sisters in Christ who disagree with homosexual
practice be allowed to exercise their religious beliefs without fear of
punishment, retribution, or coercion?
In private, yes.
But if you are using
your religious beliefs as a pretense to discriminate, then no.
Religious beliefs have been used for all
manner of deplorable things.
The trial
judge in the Lovings’ case (of
Loving v Virginia – the Supreme Court case that overturned
anti-interracial marriage laws) once wrote, “Almighty God created the races
white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents.
And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for
such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not
intend for the races to mix.”
A court clerk should no more be allowed to deny a marriage certificate for a
same-sex couple than an interracial couple.
It’s your job.
If you can’t do it
within the confines of the law, then find another.
I would, however, exempt from this artists, including cake decorators and
florists.
Nobody should be forced to ply
an art for a cause they do not support.
26. Will you speak up for your fellow Christians when their jobs, their
accreditation, their reputation, and their freedoms are threatened because of
this issue?
I do not support the use of religion as an excuse for discrimination.
After all, Jesus said “You shall love your
neighbor as yourself.”
There is not an
exception carved out there for gay people.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Full stop.
27. Will you speak out against shaming and bullying of all kinds, whether
against gays and lesbians or against Evangelicals and Catholics?
I would defy you to find me an Evangelical or Catholic person who has truly
been bullied because of their beliefs about gay marriage.
If that has happened, I would stand against it.
As for shaming, I believe holding a
discriminatory viewpoint is shameful. On some issues there are not two sides.
28. Since the evangelical church has often failed to take unbiblical
divorces and other sexual sins seriously, what steps will you take to ensure
that gay marriages are healthy and accord with Scriptural principles?
By supporting and honoring them as much as every other marriage.
29. Should gay couples in open relationships be subject to church
discipline?
If a church views extra-marital affairs as a sin, then they should treat all
such affairs equally.
30. Is it a sin for LGBT persons to engage in sexual activity outside of
marriage?
No more so than it is for heterosexual people.
You know, you’re not making a very good
argument against gay marriage here.
After all, it was Paul who recommended that early Christian men get married as a
means of avoiding the temptations of
porneia. It seems like the same could work for LGBT people.
31. What will open and affirming churches do to speak prophetically against
divorce, fornication, pornography, and adultery wherever they are found?
The same things other churches do (which, let’s face it, is usually
nothing.)
32. If “love wins,” how would you define love?
I’d need another 1,000 words for that and it’s already 11:00pm. In short, love is love. That feeling you have for your significant other? Gay people feel it for their significant others, too. It's no different.
33. What verses would you use to establish that definition?
34. How should obedience to God’s commands shape our understanding of love?
35. Do you believe it is possible to love someone and disagree with
important decisions they make?
You seem to be implying in this question that homosexuality is a “decision.”
If that’s what you’re saying, there’s not
much point in continuing here.
All
evidence is pointing to the conclusion that homosexuality is an innate
condition.
If you’re asking me if it’s
possible to love someone and to believe that a fundamental aspect of their very
nature will condemn them to Hell, then I would say “no.”
36. If supporting gay marriage is a change for you, has anything else
changed in your understanding of faith?
I no longer believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God.
It was written by men, who each had their own
agendas and audiences and must be interpreted in such contexts.
37. As an evangelical, how has your support for gay marriage helped you
become more passionate about traditional evangelical distinctives like a focus
on being born again, the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ on the cross, the
total trustworthiness of the Bible, and the urgent need to evangelize the lost?
It’s actually strengthened my faith by convincing me that God’s plan for all
of us, gay or straight, involves love.
God is love.
He manifests himself
on earth through love.
And it is through
his love for us – all of us – that we are saved.
38. What open and affirming churches would you point to where people are
being converted to orthodox Christianity, sinners are being warned of judgment
and called to repentance, and missionaries are being sent out to plant churches
among unreached peoples?
Well, few American churches (and no evangelical churches) truly teach “orthodox Christianity,” but I’m a
huge fan of
College Hill United Methodist in Wichita, Kansas.
39. Do you hope to be more committed to the church, more committed to Christ,
and more committed to the Scriptures in the years ahead?
Yes.
40. When Paul at the end of Romans 1 rebukes “those who practice such
things” and those who “give approval to those who practice them,” what sins do
you think he has in mind?
See above, re: #8. But just to end on a snarky note, Paul is
rebuking “they [who] have no understanding, no fidelity, no mercy.”